tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16749171.post116905305260643379..comments2024-03-28T11:13:05.893-07:00Comments on The Rap Sheet: Marlowe ReduxJ. Kingston Piercehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17073921191624535912noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16749171.post-1169150757236313512007-01-18T12:05:00.000-08:002007-01-18T12:05:00.000-08:00Yes, Megan, you're right about Altman, Gould and B...Yes, Megan, you're right about Altman, Gould and Bogart. And yes, there hasn't been any Chandler film version to really appreciate his critique of the society.Jurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03021010310386744591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16749171.post-1169133847593806142007-01-18T07:24:00.000-08:002007-01-18T07:24:00.000-08:00Oh, yes, David! And that's another element that's ...Oh, yes, David! And that's another element that's been, by and large, lost over the years in representations of Marlowe: the class complications that rustle and swell continuously through the books (all the more interesting, given Chandler's own years in the oil industry). And I think the danger of episodic television for Chandler would be the impulse toward far more coherent plotting, as it's hard to find a *network* TV show that doesn't value organized plots, wrapping up loose ends, etc.Megan Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08352883474448996989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16749171.post-1169128557831574492007-01-18T05:55:00.000-08:002007-01-18T05:55:00.000-08:00Hi, Juri!I'd say that Altman's rendering had far m...Hi, Juri!<BR/>I'd say that Altman's rendering had far more to do with a desire to take aim at the mythic Marlowe that emerged in the 1950s and on, steeped in nostalgia and trapped in cliche, a Marlowe that owes far more of a debt to the Bogart rendering than the books. And Altman expertly skewered THAT Marlowe. But, for me, the Marlowe of the books has much more ambiguity and sorrow at his core, much more self-doubt and dark places... and that's a Marlowe I'd love to see.Megan Abbotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08352883474448996989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16749171.post-1169115418452715202007-01-18T02:16:00.000-08:002007-01-18T02:16:00.000-08:00Didn't Altman do exactly this? He rendered the Mar...Didn't Altman do exactly this? He rendered the Marlowe image to the early seventies. I still don't know what was so wrong about this, even though I must admit that I'd have hard time to see Marlowe with a cell phone. It would be interesting, but I'd like to see the remodeling still taking place in the 1940's and 1950's Los Angeles. Those were dark times, as everyone who's read Ellroy knows. (And clearly Megan Abbott, but I'm sorry to say that I haven't as yet had the opportunity to read her work. Thanks for very interesting posts here, though!)Jurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03021010310386744591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16749171.post-1169076200081321472007-01-17T15:23:00.000-08:002007-01-17T15:23:00.000-08:00I wonder also whether it would be possible to reca...I wonder also whether it would be possible to recapture the raciness of the Bogart-Bacall nightclub conversation in <I>The Big Sleep</I>. <BR/><BR/>Marlowe's encounter with General Sternwood in the hothouse has an interesting echo in <I>The Dying Trade</I> by the Australian writer Peter Corris.<BR/><BR/>Peter<BR/>===================<BR/> Detectives Beyond Borders<BR/>"Because Murder Is More Fun Away From Home"<BR/> http://www.detectivesbeyondborders.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com